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Debate Series 2015 – Secular Atheism vs Intelligent Design p.1

Debate Series Excerpt

wp1488 wrote: We are discussing something that could possibly by it’s very nature be unknowable.

Why is there something and not nothing?  Why is there a causeless first cause and not nothing?

I know of no way to overcome the infinite regress.

The “causeless” first cause is not “unknowable”. It simply is not known by the methods you have restricted yourself to. You, more accurately the “faith” you incorrectly call “science” have defined your own box and then you demand that all that is known fit in that Box.


The Creator, God, does not fit in that box you created. He has qualities that exceed your or my capability to fully comprehend, but what we can Know of Him He has revealed.

Not “proved” to everyone, but “revealed” to those who seek Him.

Exodus 3 

13 Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?”

14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.'”

The God revealed to Moses did not “come to be” from anywhere. He IS. Thats why the Tretragrammaton translates to “I AM” or “”he who causes to exist”.

The Creator IS the first cause and if you consider it this is really the only LOGICAL answer.

The issue is not “knowing” the unknown, it’s rather a question of whether you have a heart to accept the truth.

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