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Honest Scientist sees it but can’t say it

Columnist George Caylor once interviewed a molecular biologist for an article entitled “The Biologist,” that ran on February 17, 2000, in The Ledger (Lynchburg, VA), and is in part reprinted here as a conversation between “G: (Caylor) and “J” (the scientist). We joint the piece in the middle of a discussion about the complexity of human code.

G: “Do you believe that the information evolved?”

J: “George, nobody I know in my profession believes it evolved. It was engineered by genius beyond genius, and such information could not have been written any other way. The paper and ink did not write the book! Knowing what we know, it is ridiculous to think otherwise.”

G: “Have you ever stated that in a public lecture, or in any public writings?”

J: “No, I just say it evolved. To be a molecular biologist requires one to hold onto two insanities at all times. One, it would be insane to believe in evolution when you can see the truth for yourself. Two, it would be insane to say you don’t believe evolution. All government work, research grants, papers, big college lectures—everything would stop. I’d be out of a job, or relegated to the outer fringes where I couldn’t earn a decent living.

G: I hate to say it, but that sounds intellectually dishonest.

J: The work I do in genetic research is honorable. We will find the cures to many of mankind’s worst diseases. But in the meantime, we have to live with the elephant in the living room.

G: What elephant?

J: Creation design. It’s like an elephant in the living room. It moves around, takes up space, loudly trumpets, bumps into us, knocks things over, eats a ton of hay, and smells like an elephant. And yet we have to swear it isn’t there!

Dr. John Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research:

[Scientists] see the evidence for creation, and they see it clearly, but peer pressure, financial considerations, political correctness, and a religious commitment to naturalism force them to look the other way and insist they see nothing. And so, the illogical origins myth of modern society perpetuates itself.

 

Dinosaurs and the Bible – T-REX Skull

T-REX Skull – archaeological discovery

BST BiteByte: Bible believers should have the best view of both Science & History because they add to their knowledge information accessed by Spiritual Revelation.   The secular person is blinded and oblivious to this entire paradigm of truth and reality.

As we have seen in this series the existence of Dinosaurs were recognized and revealed in the oldest manuscript of the Bible, the book of Job.

We have also seen here on BiteSizedTruth.com that the Bible does not definitively state anything about how old the earth itself is, only the relative age of the Adam of Eve Generation can be estimated from scripture along with historical and archaeological observation.

It ranks first among the works of God!  Job 40:19 ESV

15  “Behold, Behemoth,  
3  which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox.  
16  Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 
17  He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 
18  His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron
19  “He is the first of the works  of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!Job 40:15-19 ESV

The Hebrew word tanniyn, which is translated a few different ways in our English Bibles. Sometimes it’s “sea monster,” and sometimes it’s “serpent.” It is most commonly translated “dragon.”   SOURCE

The tanniyn appear to have been some sort of giant reptile. These creatures are mentioned nearly thirty times in the Old Testament and were found both on land and in the water.

In addition to mentioning these giant reptiles, the Bible describes a couple of creatures in such a way that some scholars believe the writers may have been describing dinosaurs. The behemoth is said to be the mightiest of all God’s creatures, a giant whose tail is 

See also: Dinosaurs & Forbidden History

 

Dinosaurs and the Bible – Forbidden History

 

It ranks first among the works of God!  Job 40:19 ESV

15  “Behold, Behemoth,  
3  which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox.  
16  Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 
17  He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 
18  His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron
19  “He is the first of the works  of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!Job 40:15-19 ESV

The Hebrew word tanniyn, which is translated a few different ways in our English Bibles. Sometimes it’s “sea monster,” and sometimes it’s “serpent.” It is most commonly translated “dragon.”   SOURCE

The tanniyn appear to have been some sort of giant reptile. These creatures are mentioned nearly thirty times in the Old Testament and were found both on land and in the water.

In addition to mentioning these giant reptiles, the Bible describes a couple of creatures in such a way that some scholars believe the writers may have been describing dinosaurs. The behemoth is said to be the mightiest of all God’s creatures, a giant whose tail is likened to a cedar tree (Job 40:15).


Some scholars have tried to identify the behemoth as either an elephant or a hippopotamus. Others point out that elephants and hippopotamuses have very thin tails, nothing comparable to a cedar tree.

Dinosaurs like the brachiosaurus and the diplodocus, on the other hand, had huge tails which could easily be compared to a cedar tree.

Nearly every ancient civilization has some sort of art depicting giant reptilian creatures. Petroglyphs, artifacts, and even little clay figurines found in North America resemble modern depictions of dinosaurs.

Rock carvings in South America depict men riding diplodocus-like creatures and, amazingly, bear the familiar images of triceratops-like, pterodactyl-like, and tyrannosaurus rex-like creatures. Roman mosaics, Mayan pottery, and Babylonian city walls all testify to man’s trans-cultural, geographically unbounded fascination with these creatures.

Sober accounts like those of Marco Polo’s Il Milione mingle with fantastic tales of treasure-hoarding beasts. In addition to the substantial amount of anthropic and historical evidences for the coexistence of dinosaurs and man, there are physical evidences, like the fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs found together at places in North America and West-Central Asia.

A Restoring Genesis Film
The Secret History of Dinosaurs
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Archaeology is a branch of historical research that seeks to reveal the past.  It is the study of activity in the past and environmental data especially that left behind by past human populations

Archaeology, or archeology, is the study of human activity through the recovery and analysis of material culture. Thearchaeological record consists of artifacts, architecture, biofacts or ecofacts, and cultural landscapes.

1 Timothy 6:20 False Science

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to your trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called
1 Tim. 6:20

This is a vast topic.  Keeping it Bite Sized here consider this simple truth.  Written historical records go back only a few thousand years.
The modern printing press was invented in 1450. Less than 1000 years ago! The more labor intensive Chinese woodblock devices for duplicating written material go back further but still at most
circa 648 BC. That means no matter how you slice it less than 2,000 year of written history was based on something other than manual creation of written material, written on cloth, scrolls, stones, rock walls etc.

So how is it that “intelligent” people can call things facts that occurred long before recorded history, without not only living eye witnesses but without even written record of witnesses?

Essentially speculation is falsely labeled “science” and accepted as “fact” despite being based entirely on interpretations of things like old bones and rocks as if no other interpretation of those things is possible.

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“Science falsely so-called” is, in the Greek, literally “pseudo-science” or “pseudo knowledge.”

1Tim6-20

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Thomas Paine on God & Science

Consider this truth: Science itself is God’s creation.

All that we discover in “nature” is designed,
planned, orchestrated with the purpose and intent of it’s designer.

No less than the founders of the United States understood this well and make it known that they did.
Thomas Paine: “ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin.
Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.”
“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism.

Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence.

They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.”

“The Existence of God–1810”

 

Conversations: Evolution, Poor Design, No Design

Conversation Snippet
(Taken from one of Dr. Hunter’s discussions
and debates with Random Evolutionists)

Random Evolution Believer says:
“You are free to believe what you like. I am merely pointing out that evolution explains poor design and religion, or ‘intelligent design’, doesn’t.”

My Response:
A belief in “Random” Evolution does not explain poor design and in fact doesn’t “explain” any kind of design. The very belief that no cognizance, awareness or intelligence is required means that there is “NO DESIGN”, let alone a poor design.

That’s the point of this book. To show that there is of necessity design involved irrespective of who you believe to be it’s source, it is a design on so many levels, including at the level of we have come to call informational technology.

The question of whether the design is “good” or “poor” or whether the design WAS “good” and deteriorated for some reason, or what the actual intent of the design was/is (a question critical to whether or not the design is “poor”) moves into a separate question from the one addressed in this book. The point is, if the design were random or even if it was driven only by “mindless” forces such as natural selection it would not be a design at all but simply chance.

In fact if you consider the implications of Dr. Meyers book then you should also understand that his central argument goes beyond “Evolution” because natural selection, the supposed driving force of evolution, depends FIRST on the existence of the design elements the book is discussing.

Please consider that the question of whether the design is poor, good or perfect and why it is in the condition it is in is a separate question from whether or not there is an intelligence required for the design to exist at all.

*Note: I distinguish the belief in “Random Evolution” from a belief in Evolution in general.  The latter leads to a separate discussion from the former which is a line many people blur and is a very important distinction that should not be missed in serious analysis.

The process current day scientists call Evolution depends by necessity on life processes with the coded processes of DNA and RNA already preexisting before any sort of “natural selection” or “survival of the fittest” has any chance to get started.  This means that any processes called Evolution of any kind depend ultimately on what is already a clearly Intelligent Design.

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Conversations: The 6000 year question

Just old IS the Earth?

I found it very interesting that Presidential Candidate Ben Carson addressed a question and a issue which I often see discussed and debated and some length in discussions related to origins.

The question is about the age of the earth as it relates to “Creationism”. Creationism is a phrase I put in quotes because I find so much ignorance and fallacy as to what our modern secular society thinks these things mean.

At any rate I found it very interesting that Ben Carson tired to answer the question very similar to the way I usually answer it.  The topic can lead also to the Theological topic and debate on the  “Gap Theory” or in some way explaining that the Bible does not specify an age of the earth.

This thread is from conversations I’ve participated in on the topic.